MAMZ Biographical Table Proving He Was at CIA at Least One Year, Maybe Two

Markos C.A. Moulitsas Zúñiga said in a speech at the Commonwealth Club that he had spent only six months at the CIA, in 2001, leaving the CIA after the end of a six-month application process. That appears to have been a lie. To prove it, and to facilitate a community-wide investigation of inconsistencies and falsehoods that MAMZ has told the media and his followers, I offer the chronological table below, following MAMZ from his birth until the present. (Because of formatting difficulties, you have to pass over a sea of whitespace after Stu Piddy's quotation before you arrive at the table below.) According to Stu Piddy, of the MyLeftWing and Political Fleshfeast blogs,

Upon closer examination of the audio tape it appears that Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas says in fact he was speaking to the CIA up until 2003 about employment and long after he started Daily Kos in May of 2002.

Please listen to the tape for verifiication

He states that in 2001 "I was underemployed, between jobs so I applied to the CIA" and later in reference to ANOTHER POINT IN TIME ...he made a decision to work for Howad Dean instead of working for the CIA. That decesion could only have taken place in 2003. That is when he went to work for Howard Dean. Moulitsas discloses to the Daily Kos community that he had decided to work for the Dean Campaign in June of 2003 http://www.dailykos....

I've been on the road a lot the past few months. Some of it was for my day job as a web developer. But the bulk of it was for my new political consulting firm (alongside my partner).

I spent this weekend in Burlington, VT, where we officially accepted work on behalf of presidential candidate Howard Dean. Dean joins a Senate candidate in our still small but hopefully growing roster of clients.

Here we see Moulitsas is saying his decesion to join the Dean campaign is made final and the time is June 2003, NOT ANYTIME IN 2001. In January 2003 he formed a political consulting partnership with Jerome Armstrong. Sometime later in 2003 he joined the Dean campaign.

Stupiddy :: Proof of Marcos Moulitsa's Involvement with the CIA After Forming Daily Kos

Moulitsas says he talked to the CIA about his website. His website was begun in May of 2002.

By his own account, Marcos Moulitsas at least interviewed with the CIA AFTER he formed Daily Kos, not (only) before. It may be he began the interview process in 2001 and that it continued (or training continued) to just before June 2003. He says he went "all the way to the end". Does this mean he had compeleted training? If he started a 6 month interview process in 2001 it would have long ended by late June of 2003 when he made his decision to work for the Dean campaign. He formed his partnership as a political consultant in January 2003 with Jerome Armstrong.

In January of 2003, Markos Moulitsas joined Jerome Armstrong in a political consulting partnership called Armstrong Zuniga, before being formally dissolved in December 2004. Howard Dean hired them for a time as technical consultants in 2003.

It would be interesting to know more about Jerome Armstrong ( he was indicted for securities fraud). He went to work for Dean after forming the partnership...so it must be at THAT point that he made the decision he discusses to work not for the CIA but for Howard Dean and that occurs in June 2003. If he starts an interview process in 2001 that lasts 6 months and he is making his decesion in or around June 2003 there are at least 12 months in which his relationship with the CIA continues but is not defined. Therefore, according to his own statements, we can conclude that while Markos Moulitsas was proprietor of Daily Kos, he was also involved in at least discussions with the CIA for employment. Stu Piddy at Political Fleshfeast

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Year	Activity	Source of Data	Questions Raised
September 11, 1971	“Moulitsas was born in Chicago on September 11, 1971. http://www.guernicamag.com/features/172/firmly_forward/ ”MAMZ is born in Chicago. (CATO) “Nacido en 1971 en Chicago, vino a El Salvador en 1976 y regresó con su familia a Estados Unidos en 1980, cuando comenzaba el conflicto en nuestro país.” (La PrensaGráfica.Com)
September 11, 1974 > September 11, 1975	“His family moved to El Salvador, his mother’s native country, when he was three.” Guernica.com		There certainly is a discrepancy between these two dates of at least one year and maybe two. (See LaPrensaGráfica.Com article, which says he “came to El Salvador in 1976.")
1976	MAMZ family moves to El Salvador. “vino a El Salvador en 1976.” (La PrensaGráfica.Com) [“. . .came to El Salvador in 1976 . . .”]	There certainly is a discrepancy between these two dates of at least one year and maybe two. (See LaPrensaGráfica.Com article, below, which has says he “came to El Salvador in 1976.)
The 1980’s	MAMZ was a Reagan Republican: “It was my fealty to the notion of personal liberty that made me a Republican when I came of age in the 1980s.” Cato Unbound, publication date: October 2, 2006
1980	“civil war forced his family back to the States in 1980.” (CATO) “regresó con su familia a Estados Unidos en 1980, cuando comenzaba el conflicto en nuestro país.” (La PrensaGráfica.Com) [ . . .returned with his family to the United States in 1980, when the conflict started in El Salvador.] http://www.moulitsas.com/wedding/wedding.asp
1984	MAMZ starts playing piano, “Ticklin’ the ivories since 1984.” Moulitsas Online Music Album
1984	At thirteen years old, MAMZ is a precinct captain in the 1984 reelection campaign of president Ronald Reagan. After an interview with MAMZ, Guernica Magazine wrote, “( . . . ) he became a fanatical supporter of Ronald Reagan (who backed El Salvador’s government as part of his anti-Communist strategy), even working as a Republican party precinct captain in high school.” Guernica
September 11, 1988	MAMZ turns 17, has seventeenth birthday. “A los 17 años, Markos entró a formar parte del ejército de Estados Unidos.” (LaPrensaGráfica.Com) [“At 17 years old, Markos joined the Army of the United States.”]
9/11/88 - 9/10/89	“Immediately after high school, at the age of 17, Moulitsas enrolled in the U.S. Army” (CATO) “The idea was partly to improve his self-esteem and serve his country and partly to burnish his resume for a career in politics.” SanFranciscoGate.Com Guernica After high school, Moulitsas, then a Reagan Republican thanks largely to the White House's support of the Salvadorean government, spent four years as an army artillery scout, mainly in Germany. WaMonthly	Could MAMZ have spent “four years” as an Army scout, based on his year of graduation and his date of entering NIU?
September 11, 1989	Immediately after high school, at the age of 17, Moulitsas enrolled in the U.S. Army. Cato Unbound MAMZ turns 18, has eighteenth birthday.
Fall 1992(?)	Entered Northern Illinois University as a freshman.“enrolled at Northern Illinois University . . ." (WaMONTHLY) According to the NIU Northern Star campus newspaper, he was a “freshmen” in January 1993, when MAMZ wrote his infamous essay opposing ALL gays in the military.Northern Star Wiki: Markos Moulitsas Zúñiga
Presidential Election, November 1992	MAMZ votes for George H.W. Bush for president. Moulitsas voted for Bush Sr. in 1992. Guernica
January 25, 1993	MAMZ publishes essay at Northern Illinois University campus newspaper, the “Northern Star,” opposing ALL gay service in the US military. Northern Illinois University "Northern Star" campus newspaper.
1996	MAMZ records music in Chicago. MAMZ's Online Music Album
1996	MAMZ graduates from Northern Illinois University. Wiki: Markos Moulitsas Zúñiga			US Congressman (NM)
1996 – 1999	“He earned a J.D. at Boston University School of Law (1996-1999).[3]” Wiki: Markos Moulitsas Zúñiga			US Congressman (NM)
September 11, 1996 > September 10, 1997	He met Elisa when he was a 25-year-old law student and she was a 19-year-old sophomore at Boston University. SanFranciscoGate.Com
1997 – 2000	MAMZ “family business” receives five million dollars in foreign investments. Salvadoran Supreme Court Library Document
Spring 1998	MAMZ proposes to Elise. "While [Elise] studying abroad in Spain, I visiter her for a week. During that time, we spent a few days in Bamberg, where I lived for nearly three years in the early 90s. That's when I popped the question." MAMZ's Online Wedding Album
1998	"( . . . ) in 1998, moved out to San Francisco to try his luck in Silicon Valley." Kos Call
1999	MAMZ says, "I had the good fortune of working with Tim Bruhns at Blink Music in Cambridge, MA." Moulitsas.Com/music			US Congressman (NM)
November 24, 2000	MAMZ gets married in El Salvador. Online Wedding Album			US Congressman (NM)
Six months during 2001(?) Can´t be!	MAMZ says he interviewed with the CIA in Washington, DC for six months, where he was told that, "Man, they're going to take us to war. This isn't right." Speech to the Commonwealth Club, San Francisco, June 2, 2006.	Why would the CIA tell MAMZ about the Iraq War when the within four months after the destruction of the World Trade Center, at least two years before the war began? If this is true, why did MAMZ keep this information secret even as the Administration was insisting that it had no immediate plans for war with Iraq? Was there a conflict of interest between MAMZ’s role in the anti-war movement and his assumed duty not to report conversations he had had with employees of the Central Intelligence Agency? If so, how did MAMZ resolve this conflict?
May 22, 2002	“Six months before the 2002 midterm elections . . . he decided to start a blog. Guernica.Com "Moulitsas started Daily Kos — a weblog focusing on progressive, liberal, and Democratic Party politics — on May 26, 2002" Cato Unbound "Esta página [DailyKos] fue creada en mayo de 2002 por Markos Moulitsas Zúniga." LaPrensaGráfica.Com
November 2002	DailyKos receiving 8,000 hits per day. “By the height of the 2002 elections, the Daily Kos received about 8,000 hits per day.” Guernica
“Late 2002”	Moulitsas was not yet in touch with the Dean campaign, but he made contact with the Dean camp through Jerome Armstrong in “late 2002.” According to Guernica Magazine’s Mark Binelli, who interviewed MAMZ in 2004: “When Moulitsas began blogging, he did so anonymously, mostly to keep his boss from finding out how he was spending his work hours. In late 2002, he began corresponding with another political blogger, Jerome Armstrong — Moulitsas’ current partner in the consulting business — whose site, mydd, inspired the Daily Kos. “We started talking about how we were both anonymous, so people really had no reason to take us seriously. But they were,” Moulitsas says. “Then we said, ‘Imagine what would happen if a candidate did this.” Around the same time, future Dean campaign manager Joe Trippi — then a senior adviser — gave an interview which Armstrong found to be idiotic, and he noted as much on his blog. “I think Trippi was googling his name, and he saw what Jerome wrote,” Moulitsas recalls. “Then he started reading mydd and the Daily Kos. Eventually, he contacted Jerome and said, ‘You think I’m an idiot. We should talk.’ “We thought the blogs would just be another tool in Dean’s toolbox — you know, this notion of talking to people directly, not filtering it through the press, humanizing the campaign,” Moulitsas continues. “But someone like Trippi, he had nothing to lose at the time, so he could be as creative as he wanted to be. They implemented the blogs in a way that was phenomenal.” Guernica	MAMZ says he was told by CIA personnel BEFORE June 2002 and within ten months of the 9-11-2001 destruction of the WTT that the US was going to invade Iraq. This makes no sense. What DOES make sense is that he was still at the CIA in late 2002, long after he has admitted to being there in the past. He must have been at the CIA for at least a year, maybe two, even while leading an anti-war blog. Is that a conflict of interest? Isn’t one of the jobs of the CIA to keep tabs on anti-war activists? Did MAMZ help them to do so? Does he help them to do so today?
Late 2002	MAMZ contact with the CIA could not have occurred earlier than May or June 2002 if it ended after six months and BECAUSE of a competing job offer or opportunity with the Dean campaign, as alleged by MAMZ in his speech at the Commonwealth Club. Speech to the Commonwealth Club, San Francisco, June 2, 2006.
February 5, 2003	Colin “Powell addressed a plenary session of the United Nations Security Council on February 5, 2003 to argue in favor of military action.” Wiki: Colin Powell
February 14, 2003	“In his report to the UN Security Council on February 14, 2003, Blix claimed that "If Iraq had provided the necessary cooperation in 1991, the phase of disarmament -- under resolution 687 -- could have been short and a decade of sanctions could have been avoided." Wiki: Hans Blix
March 2003	Moulitsas attended the California State Democratic convention in Sacramento in March, 2003 with Jerome Armstrong of MyDD. Wiki: Markos Moulitsas Zúñiga
March 20, 2003	The American Invasion of Iraq officially began.
June 9, 2003	MAMZ “officially” announces that Armstrong/Zúñiga has a consulting with Howard Dean’s presidential campaign. “I've been on the road a lot the past few months. Some of it was for my day job as a web developer. But the bulk of it was for my new political consulting firm (alongside my partner). I spent this weekend in Burlington, VT, where we officially accepted work on behalf of presidential candidate Howard Dean” DailyKos Archives	MAMZ said he interviewed with the CIA in 2001, and only stopped interviewing because of the Dean campaign job offer. But, MAMZ could not have met Dean before late 2002, because that’s when Armstrong had his first contact with Dean. And MAMZ said he met Dean through Armstrong. So, MAMZ MUST have been at the CIA until AT LEAST late 2002, or later, if he was there when the opportunity to work for Dean arose. If MAMZ was at the CIA beyond a six month interview period, then he CERTAINLY was paid for staying on for the training period. If so, MAMZ was CERTAINLY an employee/trainee who worked for the CIA. People who go to a workplace, stay for months, take mandatory training and get paid for it are “workers” and “employees” by anyone’s definition. Did Markos Alberto Moulitsas ZÚÑIGA "Work" at the CIA During His Six Months There?”
2004	MAMZ has interview with Mark Binelli of Guernica Magazine, who later reports that “Moulitsas’ family was upper-middle-class in a country with virtually no middle class, and so had little sympathy for attempts to overthrow the corrupt ruling party. “I’m still the family communist,” he says. At the time, though, Moulitsas was politically in line with his folks. The family fled back to Chicago when Moulitsas was nine, and he became a fanatical supporter of Ronald Reagan (who backed El Salvador’s government as part of his anti-Communist strategy), even working as a Republican party precinct captain in high school.”Guernica	Compare this to what Moulitsas told the Salvadoran newspaper, LaPrensaGrafica.com: “[Translated: In the pre-Internet world, someone like me could never have had this level of success. I don’t have money. I don’t come from a famous or powerful family. I was an immigrant to the United States (…)Technology gave me the opportunity to create a publication with more than a million daily readers without having much money. The start-up costs were around $100.00.]”
June 2, 2006	MAMZ makes speech to Commonwealth Club, San Francisco Infamous June 2, 2006 MAMZ Speech to Commonwealth Club, San Francisco, CA.
October 2, 2006	Publication date of Cato Institute article in which MAMZ supports “States rights,” saying, “We can fondly look back to a time when Republicans spoke a good game on libertarian issues. They professed fealty to state rights, spoke of shrinking the government, preserving individual liberty, and embracing fiscal responsibility.” Cato Unbound
April 9, 2007	Story appears in LaPrensaGráfica.com in which MAMZ alleges, “En el mundo antes de internet, alguien como yo nunca hubiera tenido ese nivel de éxito. No tengo dinero. No vengo de familia famosa o poderosa. Era inmigrante en Estados Unidos (...) La tecnología me dio la oportunidad de crear una publicación con más de un millón de lectores diarios sin tener que tener mucho dinero. Los costes de lanzamiento eran cerca de $100.” [Translated: In the pre-Internet world, someone like me could never have had this level of success. I don’t have money. I don’t come from a famous or powerful family. I was an immigrant to the United States (…)Technology gave me the opportunity to create a publication with more than a million daily readers without having much money. The start-up costs were around $100.00.]
August 4, 2007	In keynote speech at YearlyKos, MAMZ implies that he served in the Gulf War: “I served my nation, during the gulf war . . . ” MAMZ’s transcript of his speech, DailyKos Although he served in Germany, the word “Germany” does not appear a single time in this speech. “ . . . we spent a few days in Bamberg, where I lived for nearly three years in the early 90s. That's when I popped the question.” Online Wedding album