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Thursday, August 23, 2007

The CIA Truth about Kos - Daily Kos

After six months at the CIA, are you ever completely free of the taint?

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Anonymous said...: Beach on MLW stated has a very interesting comment:

Here is his comment and my reply:

CIA in 2001?!? (0.00 / 0)
What WAR is He talking about?!?
September 11, 2001 (g-d awful)

October 7, 2001 bomb Afghanistan

The war in Iraq began on March 20, 2003... did the CIA know we were going to Invaded Iraq back then. Cuz, I didnt know, and if CIA did know why would they talk to him about Top Secret Shit?

"Spell check helps, dyslexia still wins"

by: Beach @ Sat Aug 25, 2007 at 05:30:21 AM PDT

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*[new] Great Point Beach!!!! (0.00 / 0)
Thats a GREAT POINT Beach...!!!
He says he interviewed in 2001 ...no one was talking about invading Iraq in 2001...it wasn't even being brought up. It would be interesting to know when he Joined the Dean campaign becasue that would be the end of the interview process and we would know when he began the interview process and if it was before September 11th.

A lot of time Moulitasa speaks fast and loose...calling himself and immigrant, coming from a family with no means, implying he saw communists kill students...then later saying he saw it on TV....

He has to be talking about the war in Iraq and it doesn't make sense and may simply be a fabrication or error of convenience on his part. Or it could mean that he has HAD CONVERSATIONS SINCE 2001 WITH THE CIA.

I don't think anyone knew except the Neo Cons after 911 that Iraq would be targeted. I don't think the CIA was in the loop on that immediately.

And he said the CIA said that they were going to war but the evidence isn't there...that's a reference to IRAQ. That issue would only have occurred from September 11 to December 31...if his account is considered accrrate.

The "evidence isn't there" concept is really coming up only in the last couple of years.

by: Stu Piddy @ Sat Aug 25, 2007 at 08:43:01 AM PDT
[ Parent | Reply ]; August 25, 2007 at 8:59 AM
Anonymous said...: I seem to remember some early talk about Iraq from the White House in the fall of 2003. I seem to recall that the initial response from the public was "what? why Iraq?," and they backed off and replaced it with Afganistan. I don't have links though. Maybe I'm dreaming?; August 25, 2007 at 9:17 AM
Francis Holland said...: Here's what Wikipedia says about the timeline:

"Campaign timeline

* May 31, 2002 — Files paperwork to run for 2004 presidential election"

"Dean began his bid for President as a "long shot" candidate. ABC News ranked him eighth out of 12 in a list of potential presidential contenders in May of 2002. That summer, his campaign was featured as the cover article in The New Republic and in the following months he received expanded media attention. His campaign slowly gained steam, and by autumn of 2003, Dean had become the apparent frontrunner for the Democratic nomination, performing strongly in most polls and outpacing his rivals in fundraising."

If this effort is what kept MAMZ from becoming a full-time CIA agent, then he must have gotten in on the Dean thing VERY early.

Was MAMZ a paid staffer for Dean? I don't know that information. What WAS his source of income at that time?

"This is before the war, right? And se was saying, 'Man, they're going to take us to war. This isn't right."; August 25, 2007 at 10:55 AM
Francis Holland said...: OK. So, if MAMZ was at the CIA only for six months in 2001, then why were they informing him of the war in 2001?

In fact, he must have been at the CIA from 2001 until 2003!!!!!!! That's a LONG time and it would have had to include paid employment, not just interviewing.; August 26, 2007 at 7:13 AM

"When they 'crash the gates', will they take our cross?"

If a Link Here Doesn't Work . . .

If a link doesn't work, be patient. Look for an updated link in the articles below, use the search function in the top left, and/or look to this list of all but one of the articles written by Markos C. A. Moulitsas Zúñiga (MAMZ) when he was at Northern Illinois University (NIU), writing extreme right-wing letters to the editor. Interestingly, the one known missing article still is not in the archives although it was faxed to me by Northern Star staff and republished here. That article was the first in a series of five articles about "racism", four of which were assigned tasks and described the "racism" and religious persecution problems on campus based on interviews.

In the fifth article, which was not commissioned, MAMZ declared that, having completed the obligatory four articles, the fifth article would announced his intention to withdraw again into "detached selfishness", grateful that he was not one of "them", "whose skin color or religious persuassion (sic) made them the target of bigotry and discrimination. They would never be able to escape who they were."

This is MAMZ announcement that he is NOT a Latino, but is a white man, and he underlines this today by insisting that it is improper to address him using his mother's Latino name, "Zúñiga".

In looking for the MAMZ's student newspaper articles, remember that the NIU student newspaper, the Northern Star, has changed the Internet addresses of these articles three times [now four times as of 9/2010] in last 30 months, making all old links obsolete and sometimes making all of the articles temporarily unavailable.

Atty. Francis L. Holland in the Media

Washington Post quotes
Francis L. Holland slamming DNCC for all-white state blogs corps:
"Francis L. Holland, one of the vocal black bloggers, sent e-mails to DNC officials asking that 15 black-operated blogs be added to the State Corps. "There is nothing 'Democratic' about an all-white Democratic National Convention floor blogging corps," he wrote in an e-mail. Holland is also asking for the inclusion of 15 Latino-operated blogs."
Slate.com quotes Francis L. Holland regarding John Edwards' decision to endorse Senator Barack Obama for President:
"Or, as Obama supporter Francis L. Holland puts it: "So, it shows tremendous courage, foresight and solidarity that Edwards has endorsed Obama after the media declared Hillary's campaign to be as good as dead, right? Oh, well! Better late than never!"
BlackEnterprise.Com quotes Francis L. Holland:
"Of the blogs covering the convention, black blogs will be 7.2% of the blogs present,” says Francis L. Holland of the Afrosphere Action Coalition. According to Holland, many states with a strong black Democratic presence and population are either underrepresented or not represented at all, even though black bloggers from these states did apply. “The state of Tennessee, which often has over 25% blacks among its Democratic primary voters, will not have a single black blogger at the Democratic National Convention, for example. The District of Columbia, which is 60% black, will be left out. Louisiana, which is 32.4% black, will be left out. Illinois, the presidential nominee’s home state, which is 15% black, will be left out.”
Pew Project for Excellence in Journalism cites Francis L. Holland:

In 2008, the Democratic "party came under fire from African American bloggers. Francis L. Holland of the Afrosphere Action Coalition, complained to Black Enterprise magazine that black blogs only made up slightly more than 7% of the bloggers credentialed for the convention."
Francis L. Holland Blog in the
Washington Post:
"We are tired of Hillary Clinton telling America that we are less than American simply because we refuse to vote for her," said Francis L. Holland, an African American blogger." Ironically, the Clintons embraced us, and even embraced Pastor Jeremiah Wright for support during their impeachment scandal." Holland was speaking of the congressional trial that followed former president Bill Clinton's liaison with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. "She has forfeited the black vote for the foreseeable future with her color aroused appeals."
Francis L. Holland Blog in Dallas Morning News:
“November’s voter turnout depends on August’s blogger outreach,” said Mr. Holland of the Afrosphere Action Coalition., a member of a national and international black bloggers’ coalition called “The AfroSpear.” “Blogs address constituencies, and it simply is not possible for blogs that are all-white to effectively reach diverse Democratic constituencies.”
Francis L. Holland Blog in Black Enterprise Magazine:
"Of the blogs covering the convention, black blogs will be 7.2% of the blogs present," says Francis L. Holland of the Afrosphere Action Coalition. According to Holland, many states with a strong black Democratic presence and population are either underrepresented or not represented at all, even though black bloggers from these states did apply. “The state of Tennessee, which often has over 25% blacks among its Democratic primary voters, will not have a single black blogger at the Democratic National Convention, for example. The District of Columbia, which is 60% black, will be left out. Louisiana, which is 32.4% black, will be left out. Illinois, the presidential nominee's home state, which is 15% black, will be left out."
Pacifica Radio's Election Unspun June 23: Black Bloggers and Black Power, interviews Francis L. Holland:

"Francis Holland is a blogger from Afrospear, a national group of bloggers that advocates for African-Americans. When he looked at the list of State Bloggers, he saw no black blogs among them. Holland explains that the process the Democratic Convention planners used to choose the State Blogger Corps was bound to lead to this result. And he argues that the Democratic Party can scarcely afford to alienate black voters in this election year." (The original link no longer works, which is becoming a growing documentation problem on the Internet.)
The American Prospect quoted Francis L. Holland explaining why Blacks and women would not support John Edwards in 2008:
"Electing Edwards to challenge the status quo is like supporting a queen to challenge the monarchy or integrating an all-white club by adding more all-white club members. It is possible that electing yet another white man to the Presidency will end the poverty of the historically disenfranchised, with John Edwards serving as a "pass through" for those who have historically been disincluded legally and by custom. But this is a very convoluted way of achieving what could be achieved much more directly by electing Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. ..."
Huffington Post published Francis L. Holland's articles.
Columbia Journalism Review quotes Francis L. Holland Blog.

Disclaimer: Although I am a trained attorney, I am retired and am not an active member of any state Bar. Therefore, I advocate in all matters on my own behalf and not as the legal representative of any person, group or organization.

The Truth About Kos (DailyKos)

Thursday, August 23, 2007

The CIA Truth about Kos - Daily Kos

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Once CIA, Always CIA?

MAMZ Denies Being Latino in Spite of "ZÚÑIGA" Maternal Surname:

In Audiotape (Below)
MAMZ Confesses 2-YRS CIA
"Clandestine Services" Training

Audiotape of MAMZ Confession to 2 YRS at CIA
Transcript of MAMZ's Confession to 2 YRS at CIA

"When they 'crash the gates', will they take our cross?"

MAMZ Proclaims His Atheism

DailyKos' Demographics

If a Link Here Doesn't Work . . .

Moulitsas Says His Attitude Toward Latinos and Hispanics is "detached selfishness".

Atty. Francis L. Holland in the Media

Blogs Reporting "The Truth About Kos":

Blog Archive

The Truth About Kos (DailyKos)

Thursday, August 23, 2007

The CIA Truth about Kos - Daily Kos

4 comments:

Once CIA, Always CIA?

MAMZ Denies Being Latino in Spite of "ZÚÑIGA" Maternal Surname:

In Audiotape (Below)MAMZ Confesses 2-YRS CIA"Clandestine Services" Training

Audiotape of MAMZ Confession to 2 YRS at CIATranscript of MAMZ's Confession to 2 YRS at CIA

"When they 'crash the gates', will they take our cross?"

MAMZ Proclaims His Atheism

DailyKos' Demographics

If a Link Here Doesn't Work . . .

Moulitsas Says His Attitude Toward Latinos and Hispanics is "detached selfishness".

Atty. Francis L. Holland in the Media

Blogs Reporting "The Truth About Kos":

Blog Archive

In Audiotape (Below)
MAMZ Confesses 2-YRS CIA
"Clandestine Services" Training

Audiotape of MAMZ Confession to 2 YRS at CIA
Transcript of MAMZ's Confession to 2 YRS at CIA