Wednesday, April 8, 2009

DailyKos Participant "Let The Sunshine" is Banned for Citing Truth About Kos Blog's Research


Well, I think my curiousity has gotten the better of me tonight but, as is often the case, my dogged pursuit of the answers to my questions has led me to the truth. Today, the question was, "Why are so many readers coming from Google to read my exposé blog on Markos C.A. Moulitsas ZÚÑIGA and DailyKos.

Although I was exiled from DailyKos and MyRightWing, as well as MyDD over a year ago, my SiteMeter at The Truth About Kos Blog tells me that there is renewed interest in and controversy over the circumstances of my banning. The Truth About Kos (DailyKos) serves as a road map to the strange fruit that is Markos C.A. Moulitsas Zúñiga, e.g. claiming that came to the US as an immigrant when he was actually born in Chicago, and claiming to come from a nondescript Salvadoran family when his family owns millions of dollars of prime ocean front property on El Salvador's most exclusive beach and the manager of MAMZ's family hotel is also president of the Salvadoran National Tourism Bureau (or was when I last looked). "Why Has MAMZ Hidden His Roots In the Salvadoran Oligarchy?"

In fact, this "family hotel" manager received a million dollar loan guaranteed by the US Government's Overseas Private Investment Corporation, perhaps in exchange for his vigorous advocacy of globalization within Central American tourism industry and multinational table and industrial salt mining. It's all heavily documented (and more) in an investigative report here called, "The Indictment of Markos C.A. Moulitsas ZÚÑIGA by Justice and History (Updated with Additional Information and Counts)".

This blog receives about 15 consistent hits per day, with 25 page reads, from people wanting a roadmap to the strange life and secret family background of Markos C.A. Moulitsas Zúñiga (MAMZ), but over the last week there has been a noticeable increase in interest in my role in discovering and uncovering the MAMZ family secrets. (Just read the "Indictment" and you will see that there is no hyperbole when I use the words "secrets." Certainly, all of the information I uncovered was information that MAMZ himself, as well as his minions, had gone to great efforts to hide from the public, even to the extent to NEVER, EVER naming a single member of MAMZ biological family for the public. I simply pointed out and documented that MAMZ said he trained with the CIA for up to two years, and his behavior is that of a CIA agent trying to maintain a cover story while hiding his documentable background.)

Lately, people have clicked in from the Radar Online article that was the first mainstream magazine article to question MAMZ's strange love for the CIA.


A blogger who goes by the pseudonym "Karmafish" has acknowledged recently in a post at MyLeftWing that he intentionally taunted me at DailyKos and MyLeftWing in an attempt to either discredit me or make me so angry that I would say things that would alienate those who still believed that MAMZ was a leftist, rather than a Reaganite George H.W. Bush supporter who opposed ALL gay service in the military and then started DailyKos while "training" at CIA headquarters in Washington, DC. (See also "So Long, Francis", by Karmafish at DailyKos, August 13, 2007.)

I thoroughly debunked, fact by fact, Karmafish's defenses of MAMZ, not because I cared about Karmafish at all, but rather as an opportunity to more fully address the questions surrounding MAMZ for the benefit of other readers, many of whom visited MyLeftWing at the time strictly to see the debate about MAMZ and to learn more about who Markos C.A. Moulitsas ZÚÑIGA really is, and his fascinating and horrifyingly right-wing Salvadoran oligarchy family background. (Just search for words like "oligarchy" and "family" and "hotel" and "ANEP" and "Alberto" and "Joya" and "salt" at this blog to follow the entire bizarre story of careful deception that is DailyKos and its founder and his one-time at least employer, and perhaps present handler.)

However, Karmafish's latest article about this at MyLeftWing was dated April 5, while all of the Google hits for "DailyKos and Francis L. Holland" were dated on April 4, preceeding the latest Karmafish article. The Karmafish article at MyLeftWing was, it seems, a response to some other occurrence that cast doubt upon MAMZ, based on information that I had developed, and therefore Karmafish felt a need to take action to rebut the whatever was printed somewhere on or just prior to April 4.

In fact many people at MyLeftWing and other blogs accused me of being a "Kos-basher" and, of course, they were quite right. This blog is devoted to exposing the many reasons why Kos needs to be bashed right out of the media and particularly out of left wing circles, where his efforts to channel and control dissent seems to be his primary value after having trained at the CIA. OF COURSE someone who trained at the CIA would vehemently oppose conspiracy theory, since the CIA is one big conspiracy think tank that endeavors to do all of its planning and action with plausible deniability, outside of the public eye. The CIA must have been terribly concerned with maintaining this plausible deniability and with deflecting blog attention from their activities when they sponsored MAMZ financially during the time when the Iraq War was starting and MAMZ was coincidentally starting DailyKos, where he urged supporters NOT to engage in street demonstrations against US invasion of Iraq.


Well, MAMZ has still not told us whether he is under contract to the CIA at present, but at least we do know now why there are so many Google hits about it leading to this blog. On April 4, there was a diary at DailyKos entitled, "Explain This, Markos Moulitsas Zúñiga", in which the diariast simply linked to the June 2, 2006 Commonwealth Club interview in which MAMZ acknowledged that he had spent two years "training" at the CIA's Washington offices while he was starting DailyKos. In the comments at least two people posted links to The Truth About Kos, where MAMZ's connections to the CIA and, indirectly, to the globalizationist US Overseas Private Investment Corporation are explored in great depth.

Here's the entire diary that was posted at DailyKos on April 4:

Explain This, Markos Moulitsas ZunigaLetTheSunShineDigg this! Tweet this submit to reddit Share This

Sat Apr 04, 2009 at 01:53:08 PM PDT

Kos has never explained the strange timeline that his 2006 interview with the Commonwealth Group produced. He said he interviewed with the CIA in 2001. He said it was a six month process. He said that when he was about to sign on for clandestine spy operations, he instead decided to join the Dean campaign. But that was in 2003. Links and evidence after the fold.

key excerpt:

There have been plenty of folks who have railed against The Daily Kos for years. Many knew in their gut that free speech here has been an illusion. A wonderful activist named David Weintraub found the definitive proof that unfair moderating practices have been encouraged and implemented by top members of the administration. The following link may be housed by an insignificant website named Free Speech Zone, but don't be confused by that factoid. They had nothing to do with locating this proof.

The UGOG Files

Hmmm. This link is no longer displayed at FSZ. If the link doesn't work, then that will not be a problem, as it will simply be reproduced elsewhere when time permits.

Dave was arguably the finest blogger at DKos until an insidious individual named MajorFlaw{Ugog} decided that he needed to be run off.

I don't expect Kos to explain the illogical nature of his comments to the Commonwealth Group, of how a six month process lasted well past the start of this domain up to his decision to work with Howard Dean.

I don't expect Kos or any of the administrators to explain why UGOGs such as Trashablanca, MBNYC, DadaNation, TaylorMattD, and TECampbell are still allowed to post. I don't expect him to explain why he never made one comment on any of Dave's diaries until his last one, only to call him some kind of drama queen/king.

I expect this diary to be deleted.

I do not expect DKos to ever recover from the growing awareness that this website has been nothing other than a cash cow having none to do with democratic ideals.

Tags: Markos Moulitsas, CIA, Meta, DaveFromQueens, Michele Bachmann (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

The diary was not deleted, but the writer was summarily banned, according to the comments to the diary itself.
I think this diary is mocking Holland (0+ / 0-)
from those links there are several recent spinoffs from his 3/30/09 posting.
This is mockery in a subtle style imo, not serious.
Diarist now banned I see...

Hear is "one of them" edscan 3/27/09

by KenBee on Sat Apr 04, 2009 at 04:45:04 PM PDT
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As is so often the case at DailyKos, there was no one there to seriously engage the discussion of why MAMZ confessed in a video, in his own voice, that he spent up to two years at CIA offices in D.C. Instead of addressing that question, commentors attacked the diarist, his motives, and showered him with ridicule, while expressing no curiosity at all about MAMZ's 2 years at the CIA, as if his reasons for being there were self-evident or easily explained away. One commentor even claimed to be the wife of a CIA employee, apparently as a way of legitimizing MAMZ's time there. 'Everybody works at the CIA at some point in their lives, right?' seems to be the attitude that DailyKos (staff writers?) would have us all adopt.

The same diarist had made a previous attempt a few days earlier to bring the truth about Kos to DailyKos, but s/he naturally met with the same derisive and dismissive comments, as well as vulgar insults that we saw with respect to the diary referenced above:

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  • The irony- Watch How This Post Gets Deleted!!!!! (0+ / 0-)

    Kos says he has no problem with the CIA. He applied in 2001 and went through a six month process. Then right before signing on for clandestine spy operations, he decided to work instead for the Dean Campaign in 2003.

    Watch how this post gets deleted.

    First, here's a tidbit concerning Kos' CIA pals and Cuban history.

    Leyland Buses, Cuba and the CIA

    Mike examines allegations that CIA agents sabotaged consignments of British Leyland buses bound for Cuba in the 1960s. The British government's support of a deal to export hundreds of buses to the island, which was in the early days of its revolution, incensed the American government, which was trying to enforce its economic blockade. With anti-Castro rhetoric and communist fears mounting within the Kennedy administration, the CIA was given special powers to undermine the regime in Cuba.

    Mike examines official papers which point towards concerns that the coveted Leyland buses had been sabotaged on Cuban soil or en route to Cuba. With 'spymania' in the air, these fears were heightened when in October 1964 a ship carrying 42 buses to Havana was struck by another ship on the Thames and sunk.

    The programme investigates just how far the US was prepared to go to sabotage the Cuban economy and asks whether the CIA could really have sent the buses to the bottom of the Thames.

    June 2nd, 2006 Interview with the Commonwealth Club.

    Dalton: Not long ago, liberals loathed the Central Intelligence Agency as the enemy of democratic governments and they install dictators around the world, and these days you read the papers and people on the left are rallying to the defense of the CIA and indignant when the CIA is politicized. How did this come about, that suddenly liberals are championing the CIA?

    Moulitsas: I don't know. You know, I

    Dalton: Do you find it strange or ironic that there's all of a sudden love for the CIA?

    Moulitsas: You know, I think a lot of the people that did have problems with the CIA, I mean, it was a very vocal minority. I think most people didn't really think about it that much, right? It wasn't really on their radar screens in the way that now it is because now we're in this huge war and it was the CIA that was warning the Administration against invading because there were no weapons of mass destruction.

    Here's a little secret I don't think I've ever written about, but in 2001I was underemployed, unemployed, underemployed, you know, I was in that, you know, y'all have been there, right? Dot-com people? Kind of like between jobs and you do a little contract work and kind of, so, that's where I was, in this really horrible netherworld of will I make rent next month? And so I applied to the CIA and I went all the way to the end, I mean, it was to the point where I was going to sign papers to become Clandestine Services, and it was at that point that the Howard Dean campaign took off and I had to make a decision whether I was going to kind of join the Dean campaign, that whole process, or I was going to become a spy.

    [laughter from audience]

    And it was going to be a tough decision at first, but then the CIA insisted that if I join that they'd want me to do the first duty assignment in Washington, DC and I hate Washington, DC. That was six years in Washington, DC before they'd post me overseas, I was like, yeah! That made the decision a lot easier.

    But what was really amazing about that experience is that every single person I talked to in the CIA, and I must have talked to dozens of people, you know, psychologists and, you know, people in the leadership, and you go through this whole, like, six month process, really in depth. Every single one of them was liberal. Every single one of them, and, to the point where I was talking to somebody, we were talking about my Web site, because they came by my Web site, and she was agreeing with me on everything and this was before the war, right? And she kept saying, man, they're going to take us to war and, you know, it's, the evidence isn't there and this is crazy, and I was like, is this just you or what? And she's like, no, we're all like this here. We're all, this is a very liberal institution.

    And, in a lot of ways, it does attract people who want to make a better, you know, want to make the world a better place. I mean, people who are internationalist, in general. Rarely are people who say I want to go bomb the f–k out of some other country, right? That's not, do you have to bleep that out on the radio?

    [laughter from audience]

    Dalton: Yeah, why don't you try to say it again? [laughs]

    Moulitsas: Uh, you can, I'll let you bleep it out. And so it's, I mean, and when you think of it in a more logical sense, I mean, that makes a lot of sense. Of course, they've got their dirty ops and this and that, right? But, as an institution itself, the CIA is actually really interested in a stable world. That's what they're interested in. And stable worlds aren't created by destabilizing regimes and by starting wars. They're done so by other methods. You know, assassinating labor leaders, and, no, I'm kidding.

    But that was really surprising to me. So coming from the, and of course, I think a lot of conservatives would kind of take that as evidence that the CIA was out to undermine Bush or something because they are a bunch of liberals, and they are, they were a bunch of liberals. But ultimately that was an eye-opening experience for me, and at least ultimately I don't think it's a very partisan thing to want a calm, stable world, and even if you're protecting American interests, I mean, you know, that can get ugly at times, but generally speaking, I think, as an organization, their heart's in the right place and, if liberals before had a [inaudible], you know, this is before my time.

    I've never had a problem with the CIA, and, which is why I'd have no problem working for them. But I don't know. I mean, also keep in mind I came to this country in 1980, so I don't, you know, a lot of this more historical hostility towards the CIA by the left is before my time, so I may be missing nuances or something that, but, from a modern perspective, you know, obviously things are a little different.

    Applied in 2001
    "six month process"
    Daily Kos formed: May, 2002
    Joined Howard Dean Campaign: June, 2003

    Care to explain, Markos Moulitsas Zuniga????

Read the comments, if you want to bother with all that mindless vitriol. If there is a lesson to be learned here, it is that DailyKos is not a serious blog of any kind, leftist, centrist or rightist. Instead, it is a most likely a bunch of salaried employees of the Defense Intelligence Agency or some other such Government department, with the editorial voice of the US Central Intelligence Agency. One commenter even threatens the poster as they often did to me, offering to send the poster a fruit basked with a "pineapple" (hand grenade) inside. Yeah, that's a progressive blog alright, where dissenters are threatened with death by hand grenade!

In reality, the voice of the EXTREME right is everywhere present. I'm talking about the Salvadoran Death Squad type of people who really do believe that killing someone to silence them is a perfectly acceptable activity. Except that at a Government organ like DailyKos, "banning" is the functional equivalent of killing, because it prevents the banned person's political voice ever from being heard again at the blog.

Which is why a country run by the majority at DailyKos would probably have about the same level of freedom of speech as Pinochet's Chile or Somoza's Nicaragua.

I would encourage whomever started posted those pieces (and then got banned) to start his/her own blog, and focus on exposing more about Markos C.A. Moulitsas ZÚÑIGA's family in El Salvador, their international salt mining and distribution business, and why in the world his humble Salvador family has an office in Texas representing their Baja Salt conglomerate! I don't know, and I can't figure it out yet, but if anything every sounded like a CIA front to me, it's that Baja Salt office in Texas

16). Baja Salt distributes table salt and industrial salt in the United States, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, New Zealand, Central and South America, and maintains offices in Odessa, Texas, where President George W. Bush was born. This Odessa, Texas office shares a telephone number, fax number and physical address with a peculiar equipment rental and petroleum industry business, Light Tower Rentals, Ltd, listed along with Halliburton Energy Services Group in the Texas organization records ofUSA Oilfield. These activities associated with Carlos Alberto Delgado Zúñiga's Baja Salt Group have not been sufficiently explained. The Secret "Family Business" of Markos Moulitsas Zúñiga (DailyKos)
There is still so much more to be learned, if only for the sake of satisfying one's curiosity. But, I figure I've done my job. The media cannot possibly write about MAMZ biographically now without mentioning his CIA record and questioning, "WHY". And MAMZ's desire for political influence on the Left is limited by what is now known about the CIA's influence on MAMZ.

The strongest circumstantial proof that MAMZ still works for the CIA is that no national newspaper or magazine except RadarOnline.Com has covered the substantial blog debate about MAMZ's links to the CIA. Mainstream newspapers have a policy not to "out" CIA agents.


socrates said...

Dude, sir, that's me. I've been an amateur blogger since 2005.I've uncovered stuff, put stuff together. The internet is clearly being manipulated.

They are going tinfoil by association. I could point out a lot of these guys are lawyers and political consults, and they'll respond that I am calling everyone cointelpro or cia.

I got attacked in the earlier post because I didn't respond to Kos directly. I thought someone with hippie in their name would find my post informative. It was that big thread, the diary, that they went nuts with.

Then I saw KarmaFish going after you. I basically did the old-fashioned troll beatdown. But since that is how MSOC rolls, I quit that forum from this moment on. I refuse to be verbally abused by anyone.

Francis L. Holland Blog said...

Socrates, the CIA was invented and its purpose is conspiracies, so anyone who doesn't want to hear about conspiracies doesn't want to hear about the CIA's activities and the covert activities of the Federal Government.

So, what are we supposed to do? Only report and believe what we see in Government press releases?

I can certainly see why the CIA would want to propagate that approach to news, given all the efforts to manipulate the news in the run-up to the Iraq War, when DailyKos was founded. But, I've always learned to be a critical consumer, and that means looking under the hood.

If you look under the hood of any automobile, for example, you'll find thousands of parts, small and large, "conspiring" to make the car go forward and do other tasks. If you are willfully blind to all information about parts that are under cover of the hood, "covertly", then you'll never understand how and why cars do what they do. You'll instead be at the mercy of other people who DO understand, because they are willing to look beyond what's superficial about a car, including, e.g., the color of its paint.

Me, I like to understand how things collaborate (conspire) to function together to achieve particular results. The fact that the collaboration (conspiracy) is hidden makes me more interested, not less.

So, people who think that the run up to the Iraq War was "tin-foil" and only Bush's declaration of war and "mission accomplished" are facts . . . those are brain-dead people or people paid to pretend to be brain-dead.

socrates said...

Kos is certainly a CIA asset. He praised them in 2006 in that interview to the Commonwealth Club. That doesn't mean he is on their payroll, and any kind of gotcha game with semantics is not working for the gatekeepers.

I think I'll go by his words. Thus, he was hired by the CIA in 2001 or 2002. Then instead of becoming a clandestine spy, he quit the CIA to join the Dean campaign.

You're spot on about not fearing the phrase conspiracy theory. Folks can google White House Iraq Group and understand how a conspiracy was behind the start of that illegal war.

Now it is years later. While we should be putting Obama's feet to the fire, we see how the white bread blogosphere is giving him carte blanche. If he doesn't start pulling an FDR with historical vision, I see Republicans regaining the presidency in 2012. Unless he is able to put a huge band-aid on this wreck of an economy, no way will he be re-elected.

The internet fakes have swung everything to the right. Republicans have become neo-cons. Middle of the road folks are now Republicans. Liberals are now right of center. Peaceniks and progressives have turned into the liberals. Authentic free thinkers, academics, progressives, and lefty peaceniks have been driven away from the political dinner table.