Questions for Jack and Jill Politics' Relationship w/ DailyKos/YearlyKos

Jill Tubman of Jack and Jill Politics is on the Board of Netroots Nation, along with Markos C.Alherto Moulitsas Zúñiga, about whom a body of research establishes that he was trained by the Central Intelligence Agency and only became a "progressive blogger" during his training at the CIA.

In preparation for another annual "Netroots Nation" conference of virtually all-white bloggers from around the nation, Jill Tubman asks the Readers of Jack and Jill Politics to submit questions for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, with whom she expects to meet during Netroots Nation.

I have the same question for Jill Tubman that I have for Nancy Pelosi. Netroots Nation is the new name for YearlyKos, a meeting of bloggers convened by a man who acknowledges that he was working at or "training" at the Central Intelligence Agency when he founded the DailyKos blog. That man, Markos C. Alberto Moulitsas Zúñiga (MAMZ) remains on the Board of Netroots Nation.

My question for Jill Tubman and Nancy Pelosi is, "The founder and a board member of YearlyKos/Netroots Nation acknowledges that he spent two years training with the CIA between 2001 and 2003. Does that compromise the credibility and validity of the YearlyKos/Netroots Nation meeting in any way?

Here's a link to the transcript of the audiotape in which MAMZ acknowledges that he spent two years with the CIA, between 2001 and 2003, while he started DailyKos in 2002, while training with the Central Intelligence Agency.

I have a second question. Jose Antonio Vargas wrote while reporting for the Washington Post in 2007 that Yearly Kos was "a sea of middle-aged white males.". Meanwhile, Quantcast.com, a media analysis company, says that DailyKos has 5% Black participation among its participants and zero (0) percent participation of Latinos. Gina Cooper told the Washington Post reporter, "I hate to use the word diversity."

Why and how has a meeting that has so little Black and Latino participation gained so much traction in a Party which, in many electoral contests, cannot win an election without the votes of Blacks and Latinos?

And now a question for the readers of Jack and Jill Politics: Do you believe that JJP is compromised in any way by its close affilliation with the CIA-trained blogger, Markos C. Alberto Moulitsas Zúñiga through its collaboration with the CIA-trained blogger on the Netroots Nation conference and other matters?

Here's another question: Is it presumptuous and misleading for the meeting to call itself Netroots "NATION," when the group has absolutely no measurable Latino participation and only 5% Black participation?, according to Quantcast.com. In his writing, MAMZ has disavowed his own Latino heritage. See "MAMZ Denies Being Latino in Spite of "ZÚÑIGA" Maternal Surname."

Here's what MAMZ had to say about his relationship to Blacks and Latinos: He said he was blissfully happy in his "selfish detachment" from us and our concerns, this is a quote from an article he wrote:

"I was terribly happy to escape the ugliness of a racist world for the safety of my every day-to-day life. Sure, I could always talk against racism, fight ignorance and prejudice wherever I ran into it, yet I would always be looking in from another room and I could always close the door. My life, in my world, in my own detached selfishness. And as I left the ugly reality of racism behind, it struck me that what was such an easy and trivial exercise for me would be impossible for anyone whose skin color or religious persuassion made them the target of bigotry and discrimination. They would never be able to escape who they were. "

If you read the five articles he wrote, he clearly states that he prefers to live in "selfish detachment" from the very Blacks and Latinos whom he interviewed in order to write the articles about "racism" on his college campus.

OK I know that some readers will say that MAMZ has changed since he made those statements in writing. If MAMZ has changed, then why was he supporting and promoting "states' rights" (the "right" of states to discriminate without Federal Government intervention) as late as 2006? Markos C. Alberto Moulitsas Zúñiga (MAMZ) Disavows Membership in Any Ethnic Group other than White Men

The sordid background information on this MAMZ character and his Salvadoran oligarchy family are all thoroughly documented with extensive links to Government, corporate and non-profit organization websites and documents in "The Indictment of Markos C. Alberto Moulitsas ZÚÑIGA (MAMZ) by Justice and History (Updated with Additional Information and Counts)"

Most importantly, MAMZ has never denied any of the above. And virtually all of the above comes directly from MAMZ own writings. Why did MAMZ oppose, in writing, ALL gay participation in the US Military, while declaring that working around gays is "inherently uncomfortable"?

How much more do you need to know about MAMZ to realize that he cannot be trusted?

Nickname "Kos" Confused with Greek Kos' Gay Island Mecca

Gay Kos Greek Mecca

Of course, I feel personally gratified when visitors read the Truth About Kos blog and are able to find the answers to questions and doubts that may have been nagging them for days, weeks or years with respect to Markos C. Alberto Moulitsas Zúñiga (MAMZ) and his Salvadoran oligarchy family.   New online book says Kos' "family hotel" manager is also president of the Association of Salvadoran Hotels and president of the Salvadoran National Tourism Board.)

While it is certainly true that many visitors reach this blog to research MAMZ's sexuality, my "Truth About Kos" Site Meter tells me that others are seeking information about a gay tourist mecca in Greece, which is a city called "Kos" on an island called "Kos."  Kos--the CIA-trained blogger--is half-Greek and that only fuels the confusion.  Army buddies seem to have given "Kos" a nickname that, when Googled, leads directly to gay tourism advertisements as well as MAMZ's subsequent letter castigating both President Bill Clinton and gays over their advocacy for gays in the US military.



Ironically, when you publicly speak and write about that which you most hate and fear, and publish those sentiments and writings, then you ultimately become inseparable at Google from the supposed vice that you so vehemently oppose.  The Senator Larry Craig case and many others show that this association is not necessarily unfair.

The confusion between Kos, the blogger media mogul, and Kos the gay island mecca is ironic in light of the letter (MAMZ) once sent to his college newspaper, the Northern Star, in which MAMZ vehemently opposed ALL gay service in the US Armed Forces.  Ironically, just a couple of years earlier, MAMZ says his Army buddies gave him is the name "Kos," which is also the name of a notoriously gay-friendly Greek Island and city.  Ironically, he says he joined the military in the hopes that it would make a "real man" out of him. 

The letter shows an ill-formed sense of gender-self, as well a suspiciously over-heated opposition to gay rights, in which he makes an all-too-obvious effort to distinguish, distance and literally separate himself from other Army recruits who were gay. He said he was afraid they were looking at his underpants.  It sounds like unnecessary  angst to me.  In my opinion, (although MAMZ would apparently disagree with me), it is entirely possible to be both gay AND a "real man."
So, as the screen-shot  below shows, Google users come to the Truth About Kos blog in search of a "gay kos sauna."  This blog has no information connecting Markos Moulitsas to a "gay Kos sauna."  If we find any, we will certainly post it here, along with the other curious coincidences between MAMZ, his Army nickname, his half-Greek heritage, and his opposition to gay rights.

Markos Moulitsas Opposed Gays in Military, Claimed not to be Latino

Like West Virginia Senator Robert Bird, who once was a member of the Klu Klux Klan, but later came within the fold of current mainstream politics, Markos C. Alberto Moulitsas Zúñiga (MAMZ) once opposed ALL participation by gays in the US Military and ridiculed President Clinton for attempting to write an executive order that would allow gays to serve with equality.  In the end, Clinton lost that battle and America got "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."Back in 1993, MAMZ said in a letter entitled "Military Right that he published at his college newspaper,

It's truly disturbing how much ado has been made over Bill Clinton’s campaign promise to lift the ban on homosexuals from the U.S. military. It’s ironic how it has taken a president who has never served in the military to make a promise that affects the military in such a negative manner. Those who have served in the military, such as myself, understand the demands and pressures of military life are incompatible with allowing integration with homosexuals.( . . . )MARKOS C.A. MOULITSAS Undecided Freshman

The insurmountable problem with "The Rehabilitation of Markos Moulitsas" is that Moulitsas acknowledges that he spent from 2001 until 2003 training with the CIA to be a member of their "Clandestine Services."  (See Transcript of MAMZ's Interview at the Commonwealth Club, June 2, 2006.)  So when MAMZ speaks, we are compelled to wonder and doubt whether we are hearing his true beliefs or are hearing CIA-funneled and sculpted efforts by MAMZ to endear himself to progressives in order that progressives be known and led primarily by a servant of the Central Intelligence Agency.

Personally, I believe that when admittedly extreme right-wing Republicans are trained at the CIA and then claim to have become progressives, and endeavor to claim the mantle of leader of all progressives, there must be an extremely high bar before credulity can be given to anything and everything at all that they say. I believe that bar can never, ever be vaulted under circumstances such as those of MAMZ.

The incredible nature of MAMZ's statements in the past cast a long shadow over everything he says in the present.  For example, in spite of having the maternal surname "Zúñiga" and being born to a mother who was from El Salvador, MAMZ essentially said, in an article published at his college newspaper, that he is not Hispanic or Latino, but is simply a white man who would never be subject to discrimination.  On that occasion, MAMZ said,

Today the [Northern] Star ran the last of my four-part series on racism at NIU. Having been a project that dominated my life for the last couple of weeks, I was more than glad to have it finished and over with so I could return to the mundane world of Faculty Senate meetings and other reporter stuff. Yet as I gathered the last interviews and typed the final words of the final story, I was overcome by a strange, uneasy feeling. I was terribly happy to escape the ugliness of a racist world for the safety of my every day-to-day life.

Sure, I could always talk against racism, fight ignorance and prejudice wherever I ran into it, yet I would always be looking in from another room and I could always close the door. My life, in my world, in my own detached selfishness. And as I left the ugly reality of racism behind, it struck me that what was such an easy and trivial exercise for me would be impossible for anyone whose skin color or religious persuassion made them the target of bigotry and discrimination. They would never be able to escape who they were.

Who are the "THEM's" an the "THEY's" referred to in the passage above?  If you read Moulitsas' assigned series of articles (see links to all Moulitsas college articles) about "racism" on his college campus, it's clear that the people he says he can divorce himself from are the Blacks and Latinos on his own college campus.  He is not one of them, but is merely reporting on their difficulties because the college newspaper editor has asked him to do so.  He expresses great relief when the task is over and he can go back to thinking and acting like a privileged heterosexual white man, rather than confront the difficulties of a Latino in Northern Illinois.

Many Blacks have "passed for white" over the centuries, in order to have more opportunities and avoid color-aroused barriers to their success, as well as color-aroused antagonism and violence.  MAMZ makes it clear above that he has chosen to "pass for white" rather than acknowledge his Latino heritage, and he underscores this choice by insisting that he be called "Markos Moulitsas," rather than "Markos Moulitsas Zúñiga". 
Why should he "own" his mother's heritage when it will prevent him from "leav[ing] the ugly reality of racism behind" and compel him to face "skin color or religious persuassion (sic) [that] made them the target of bigotry and discrimination?  It is far easier for him to simply identify as a clueless white man and use the light color of his skin to insist that he isn't Latino. 

Who can blame him from wanting to run from Latino ethnicity?  What makes this facile approach questionable is his subsequent insistence that he was a Hispanic/Latino leader while he was a student at Northern Illinois University. The above letter written by MAMZ makes his later claim simply impossible to believe. What Hispanics would choose to be led by a man who practiced "detached selfishness" where Latino issues were concerned?

There still remains a problem to such a flight from reality: MAMZ's Greek father has died and all of MAMZ's known relatives are from Salvadoran heritage.  MAMZ even celebrated his honeymoon at his "family business" hotel conglomerate in San Salvador. The Jaltepeque Suites Hotel that MAMZ called his "family business" is a part of a much larger real estate and tourism conglomerate called Club Joya Del Pacífico.
MAMZ is the "convenient Latino."

When noting his mother's ownership of a hotel in El Salvador that charges 140 dollars per night (one tenth the yearly family income of Salvadorans), MAMZ is the son of his wealthy Latino mother. Meanwhile, here in the United States, MAMZ maintains "detached selfishness" from Latinos, which explains why only one percent of the visitors to the "Daily Whitosphere" blog are Latino, according to Quantcast.com. "Detached selfishness" on MAMZ's part has led Latinos to ignore MAMZ and to be very suspicious of his patently false claims, denied and reasserted according to the circumstances, that MAMZ is a poor immigrant (born in Chigaco). For example, Jose Antonio Vargas wrote at the Washington Post that Yearly Kos was "a sea of middle-aged white males."
Meanwhile, the "Unapologetic Mexican" blog says,

WHOA. This article sort of throws a new light on Mister "poor immigrant" DailyKos Moulitsas and his Humble Salvadoran Family story. Maybe others who are familiar with DailyKos know about this, but it sure is news to me. And important news, given the size of his blog and the purported agendas.

Bottom line: When you collaborate with Markos C. Alberto Moulitsas Zúñiga, there is an altogether outsized chance that you are unknowingly supporting a CIA-sponsored front organization run by a member of the Salvadoran oligarchy, and you are collaborating indirectly with the "family business" and that is polluting an internationally recognized endangered estuary by clearing trees, keys, and building condominiums that pollute a fragile ecosystem.

Some readers will exclaim, "But Markos Moulitsas has done so much good for progressives!" I believe that's precisely the impression the CIA planned to promote when Markos Moulitsas admittedly trained with the CIA during 2001 until 2003. MAMZ has acknowledged training at the CIA but has never disavowed working for them at the present time. I personally wonder, without people like MAMZ, how could the CIA reliably control the flow and nature of information, the initiatives and participants of the American Left? I also wonder how much money MAMZ stands to inherit when businesses like Jaltepeque Suites Hotel, Club Joya del Pacífico and Baja Salt Group are bequeathed to the younger generation of the family that owns thes family businesses?

Can you really be a "progressive" in the United States when your Salvadoran family owns international conglomerates, one of which received a one million dollar loan guarantee from the United States Government's Overseas Private Investment Corporation (OPIC)? MAMZ is dedicated, but the question is, "to whom"?

Compare MAMZ's Most Intimate Feelings for Gays in the Military to the Announcement of Secretary of Defense Gates

Sorry! Annoying video automatically starts when arriving at blog, leaving even the blog owner wondering what conversation he's listening to. Suffice to say, there was a video in which . . .

Above we have the 2010 statement of Secretary of Defense Gates' intention to prepare for gays openly to serve in the US.  Below, we have MAMZ's most candid statement of his feelings for gays in the military.  Hint:  "inherently uncomfortable."

Whose position is the most "progressive"?  Compare the DADT video of Secretary of Defense Gates (above) to the letter MAMZ wrote opposing ALL gay military service:

Military Right Publish Date: 1993 / 01/ 25

By MARKOS C.A. MOULITSAS
Undecided
Freshman


It’s truly disturbing how much ado has been made over Bill Clinton’s campaign promise to lift the ban on homosexuals from the U.S. military. It’s ironic how it has taken a president who has never served in the military to make a promise that affects the military in such a negative manner.


Those who have served in the military, such as myself, understand the demands and pressures of military life are incompatible with allowing integration with homosexuals. I’m neither socially conservative or prejudiced, and neither is liberal columnist Mike Royko, Gen. Colin Powell, and influential liberal Democrats Sam Nunn and Les Aspin, all who’ve come out against lifting the ban.


Under military circumstances, as much has to be done as possible to focus the unit’s mission and keep disciplinary problems to a minimum. Worrying about whether the known homosexual sleeping next to you is watching as you change your underwear may seem trivial as you read this, but to the soldier who’s short-tempered after three weeks in the field and four hours of daily sleep, it becomes a matter of great importance to his pride and sensibilities.


And in any case, there aren’t many people who would change clothes in a group of co-workers if members of the opposite sex were in the same room watching. There is something inherently uncomfortable about it. Such fears would go a long way in disrupting efficiency and morale in a unit.


MARKOS C.A. MOULITSAS


Undecided


Freshman

When we read that MAMZ's position toward Blacks and Latinos (and others who might suffer discrimination) was a stated position of "detached selfishness," wherein he decided not to concern himself with winning or protecting the rights of others, or opposing persecution, therefore it is not hard to understand that MAMZ's position on gays would be at least "detached selfishness."  However, the above letter tells us that MAMZ went far beyond apathy to public and open outright opposition to gay rights.

Parenthetically, I think the mistake President Bill Clinton made in 1993 was keeping Colin Powell on as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff before asking Powell whether Powell would support removing the bar against gay participation in the military.  Clinton was caught flat-footed when Powell opposed the overt (and covert) integration of gays into the Armed Forces.

The New York Times reported recently that Powell has changed his mind:

When Mr. Clinton tried to end the ban on gay soldiers, General Powell was the Joint Chiefs chairman and opposed the move on the grounds that it would undermine discipline and order in the military but he supported the “don’t ask” compromise. In his statement on Wednesday, General Powell said “the principal issue has always been the effectiveness of the Armed Forces and order and discipline in the ranks.” 

He noted that he had said for the past two years that it was “time for the law to be reviewed,” but his new statement of unequivocal support for the effort by Mr. Gates and Admiral Mullen could be an important factor as the debate moves forward this year.

No sooner had Clinton announced his determination to allow gay service by issuing and executive order than Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Colin Powell announced his opposition to Clinton's proposed executive order.  And Markos C. Alberto Moulitsas Zúñiga took a position substantially to the right of Phyllis Schafly's position:

On the matter of admitting gays to the military, Schlafly said she defers to 
the judgment of Gen. Colin Powell, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and 
other Pentagon brass who oppose it.

Schaffly "deferred to the judgment of Colin Powell" while MAMZ expressed his deeply held discomfort with gays, whose presence in the military, he said, made him "inherently uncomfortable."