Friday, November 13, 2009

Washington Monthly Article Chock Full of Moulitsas' Arrogant Misrepresentations

The Truth About Kos has been reluctant to contradict Markos C. Alberto Zúñiga's (M.A.M.Z. "Kos" of DailyKos') recollections of the Salvadoran Civil War of the 1980's because people generally remember that period based not on specific facts but rather based on their ideological attitudes and whether they supported the Reagan Administration or not. As such, it seems a bit of a waste of time to revisit an historical period about which many people's opinions are already formed. Washington Monthly says, "The family moved back to El Salvador when Moulitsas was four and was on the right-wing side of the Cold War proxy fight there," and that assessment of their political perspective seems to comport with the facts.

Yet Dave from Queens and many others are interested in M.A.M.Z.'s statements about this time, and what they say about a central falsehood that MAMZ perpetually tells the media: that he comes from a humble and uninfluential family and he had "no money" when he started DailyKos. The story of El Salvador's 1980's civil war has been told elsewhere with great detail, however M.A.M.Z.'s family's participation has only been broached with original research and citations to Salvadoran Government government documents and corporate websites at The Truth About Kos.

The non-government organizations within the human rights community have thoroughly documented Salvadoran government and death squad atrocities, while conservatives in the United States and El Salvador have denied them or attempted to justify them in the context of alleged anti-communism. MAMZ is a child of this historical period of civil war, and yet his recollections are heavily distorted by his family's participation in the Salvadoran oligarchy, whom anti-government revolutionary groups were trying to overthrow.

Rather than take issue with Markos Moulitsas political leanings, this blog has sought to show demonstrable and intentional distortions of facts made by M.A.M.Z. about his family, himself, and their role in politics, then and now. It is one thing for M.A.M.Z to be part of a wealthy right-wing family, with opinions consistent with that socio-economic strata, while it is quite another thing to consistently misrepresent matters of fact about himself and his oligarchy family.

Unfortunately, the mainstream media has written about Markos C. Alberto Moulitsas Zúñiga (MAMZ) ("Kos" of DailyKos) based entirely upon his own claims about himself and his life, without a stitch of independent research or corroboration. Or they have published his autobiographic articles uncritically, even when they are internally contradictory and the articles include various assertions that are mutually exclusive.

For example, none of the hundreds of articles written about MAMZ bothers to mention anything he wrote in stories for the Northern Star, when he was a student writer and editor of the newspaper at Northern Illinois University. Instead, they have been content to accept MAMZ's representations about what these stories hold, rather than confirm the peculiar content of these articles for themselves.

As a result, these media outlets have helped MAMZ to disseminate a web of half-truths and outright lies without ever being challenged about them in the mainstream media. This attitude of endless credulity toward MAMZ, even in the light of directly contradictory statements in MAMZ own writings, leaves the inquiring public wondering whether these publications are dispassionately describing a media phenomenon or intentionally participating in creating one.

In the January/February issue of Washington Monthly MAMZ tells journalist Benjamin Wallace Wells that he supported President Reagan because president Reagan supported the Government of El Salvador. In just a two-paragraph excerpt from this article, we have highlighted in red the contradictions, inaccuracies and inconsistencies which are legion, comparing them to verifiable facts, with citations to original documents and M.A.M.Z.'s own written and published previous statements contradicting what is reported in two paragarphs of the Washington Monthly article, as follows:

After high school, Moulitsas, then a Reagan Republican thanks largely to the White House's support of the Salvadorean government, spent four years as an army artillery scout, mainly in Germany. He had begun to gravitate leftwards while in the military--its diversity had incubated in him a kind of nascent identity politics liberalism--and when he was discharged and enrolled at Northern Illinois University, he became active in campus politics, writing a column for the school paper and helping to lead the college's Hispanic student group. After he graduated, he took another degree, from Boston University's law school, and then, in 1998, moved out to San Francisco to try his luck in Silicon Valley.

A couple of years later, now married, he moved again, to Berkeley, exasperated at the realization that he wasn't going to make a fortune in the high-tech boom. "Maybe at some time, Silicon Valley really was this democratic ideal where the guy with the best idea made a billion dollars, but by the time I got there at least, it was just like anything else--a bunch of rich kids who knew each other running around and it all depended on who you knew," Moulitsas told me. Unemployed, Moulitsas, started posting comments on a site called, the most insidery of the emerging liberal blogs. During late 2001 and early 2002, he developed a following, for the strength and clarity of his denunciations of the Bush administration. Moulitsas started his own blog, and, in the summer of 2002, Daily Kos opened for business.

It is certainly odd that MAMZ says he was motivated by Ronald Reagan's foreign policy toward Latin American when MAMZ himself wrote in his college student newspaper in 1993 that his attitude toward Blacks and Latinos was "detached selfishness". So it is difficult now to believe anything he says about his motives with respect to El Salvador in the early 1990's.

Even if we accept arguendo that MAMZ supported Republican Ronald Reagan because of Reagan's support for the government of El Salvador, Human Rights Watch says this support encouraged a lawless government in the unbridled slaughter of civilians:

Despite a decade of promises by government officials to bring to justice those responsible for gross violations of human rights in El Salvador, the impunity of military officers and death squads members remains intact. Although thousands of cases of political killings, torture, and disappearances of civilians at the hands of government forces have been documented, to date, no officer has been convicted of a politically motivated human rights abuse in El Salvador. Human Rights Watch

This is consistent with the discovery that the "manager" (see hotel advertisement) of MAMZ's family hotel in El Salvador, who shares MAMZ's last name, Zúñiga, is also a prominent member of what the US CIA has called a Salvadoran right-wing "pressure group", the National Association Private Enterprise.

13). Carlos Alberto Delgado Zúñiga, the man listed in public documents as the “manager” of the Moulitsas ZÚÑIGA’s Jaltepeque Suites Hotel, is also president of the “Junta Directiva” of the CÁMARA SALVADOREÑA DE TURISMO (CASATUR), the national tourism board of El Salvador. In addition, he is a member of the member of the “Junta Directiva” of the “Sistema de Integración de Centroamerica” (System for Integration of Central America).

( . . . )

The internationally powerful Carlos Alberto Delgado ZÚÑIGA , the “family” member listed in government records as “manager” of the Moulitsas ZÚÑIGA’s hotel (see screenshot) was on the organizational member board of El Salvador’s ANEP, the Asociación Nacional de Empresas Privadas (National Association of Private Enterprises).

During the 1980's and 90's, MAMZ, in fact, supported US President Ronald Reagan while Reagan was providing billions of dollars of financial assistance to a corrupt Salvadoran Government that participated in the slaughter of civilians as well as contributing to the environment in which Catholic Archbishop Arnulfo Romero was assassinated during mass.

22). ANEP is "a lobby of El Salvador’s most influential businessmen" that advocates free markets and “wants to privatize El Salvador’s water delivery” and its hospitals, which has led to large popular demonstrations in El Salvador against ANEP’s pro-corporate policies. CountryData.Com

23). The large national and international corporate members of ANEP were the principal political opponents of Catholic Archbishop Oscar Romero at the time when he was assassinated. CIA: Political Pressure Groups

If the US Army's "diversity had incubated in [MAMZ] a kind of nascent identity politics liberalism", then why did MAMZ write a letter to his student newspaper in February 1993 ridiculing Clinton's efforts to open the military to gays, and opposing ALL gay service in the US military? And why did MAMZ write in a separate article that his attitude in the face of discrimination against Blacks and Latinos was characterized by "detached selfishness"?

Meanwhile, I have read every single article in the archives of the Northern Illinois University campus newspaper, "Northern Star," and I cannot find a single article in which MAMZ is shown leading or participating in Hispanic activities on campus. Again, he specifically disavowed any such concern when he said that his response to "racism" on campus was to retreat into "detached selfishness" because, while minorities "could not escape who they were," MAMZ, as a white man, was able to "easily" and completely disassociate himself from any Salvadoran roots:
I was terribly happy to escape the ugliness of a racist world for the safety of my every day-to-day life. Sure, I could always talk against racism, fight ignorance and prejudice wherever I ran into it, yet I would always be looking in from another room and I could always close the door. My life, in my world, in my own detached selfishness. Northern Star, Sept. 2, 1993.
Those hardly seem like the words of an Hispanic activist. They seem more like Justice Clarence Thomas approach to his own brown skin: forget about it.

Athough the Washington Monthly says of MAMZ that "he became active in campus politics", there is not a single article in the archives of the student newspaper to corroborate this assertion.

The Washington Monthly article says that MAMZ married "a couple of years after 1998. MAMZ has said that he was "unemployed, underemployed" during this period, and that he started DailyKos in 2002 with one hundred dollars. Somehow, in spite of being "unemployed, underemployed," during this period, to the extent of seeking employment with the Central Intelligence Agency, and having "no money," he nonetheless was able to travel to El Salvador with his new wife and hold his honeymoon celebrations at the Jaltepeque Suites Hotel on the beaches of El Salvador, where the nightly room rate is $140.00.

MAMZ refers to the Jaltepeque Suites Hotel as a "family business", and one from which he obviously was able to live a lifestyle substantially above that of Salvadorans who have "no money".

In the Washington Monthly article, MAMZ deprecates those in Silicon Valley whom he says appear to be "a bunch of rich kids." And yet the inevitable result of superficial look at MAMZ's family hotel, and the honeymoon he held there, is that MAMZ, too, was a "rich kid", in spite of his relentless efforts to present himself otherwise. Indeed to say that one is poor while holding a honeymoon such as one saw in MAMZ's honeymoon website leaves the inevitable impression that MAMZ is divorced from the truth or determined to misrepresent it.

The article says that MAMZ was unemployed in 2002, but there is significant doubt on this point, because MAMZ said in an June 2, 2006 interview at San Francisco's Commonwealth Club that he was "training" at the CIA to become a "secret agent" between 2001 and the end of 2003, which would include the 2002 period during which he says he was "unemployed."

As a matter of simple logic, it is difficult to understand how a man who had "no money" would nonetheless be able to spend two years at the expensive Washington, DC, area, training at the CIA, unless he was being compensated for his work at the CIA or was depending on other (e.g. wealthy family assets) to support himself and his new wife during this period.

How does a man with "no money" afford the expenses of living and feeding himself and a new wife in Washington, DC for two years? It stands to reason that either he was depending upon income from the CIA, or help from his wealthy family, or some other source of income which he specifically denies having had.

The Washington Monthly article says that,
During late 2001 and early 2002, he developed a following, for the strength and clarity of his denunciations of the Bush administration
Did MAMZ mislead this developing following when he failed to inform them that he was simultaneously simultaneously in "training" to become a "secret agent" with the Central Intelligence Agency, which was tasked with carrying out the orders and policy of the Bush Administration, including building the false case for war with Iraq? Could MAMZ have gained the same credibility had he acknowledged his involvement with the CIA? If not, did he intentionally mislead those who were gathering around him?

The Salvadoran Government that Republican President Ronald Reagan and MAMZ supported was carrying out a counter-insurgency effort in which many union leaders, popular leaders, religous workers and peasants were killed. Human Rights Watch says in a preface to a article about El Salvador during the period when President Ronald Reagan was supporting the Government in El Salvador,

Theology Today puts the Salvadoran political moment of the 1980's into context:

Twenty years ago Archbishop Oscar Romero was celebrating mass when he was killed. Just as he had finished his homily and was about to turn to the liturgy of the eucharist, a single shot pierced his chest, and he bled to death within a matter of minutes. His bloodsoaked vestments are now on display in San Salvador for pilgrims and tourists to see. His killer has remained free.

( . . . )

[Archbishop Oscar] Romero's own path to martyrdom was illuminated by the martyrdom of his close friend Fr. Rutilio Grande. Grande was gunned down, along with a boy and an elderly man, on his way to celebrate mass in El Paisnal, less than three weeks after Romero's installation as archbishop. As Jon Sobrino, one of Grande's fellow Jesuits in El Salvador, tells it, Rutilio Grande's death played the central role in converting Romero from cautious bureaucrat to prophetic voice of the voiceless. Though personally fond of Grande, Romero had regarded with suspicion the work Grande was doing with the peasants of Aguilares, teaching them to apply the lessons of the Bible to their own lives and denouncing the unjust distribution of land.

( . . . )

The eucharist, in other words, creates a body of people who by definition stand in the line of fire. In El Salvador, this process took many forms, none more terrible than the strategy of "disappearance." Many of those arrested were simply never heard from again; their bodies would "disappear," most buried around El Salvador in shallow graves. Torture was also commonly used to instill fear, most often with the use of electricity and other techniques that leave no distinguishing marks on the victim's body.6 Finally, the state-controlled media referred to people killed, not as martyrs, but as subversives, communists, terrorists, criminals, and delinquents. The intent of these strategies was to inflict suffering and death on those who would challenge the status quo while simultaneously preventing the revelatory nature of that suffering from coming to light. Dying for the Eucharist or being killed by it? Romero's challenge to first-world Christiansm

Ironically, MAMZ has claimed that "heroes are Archbishop Oscar Arnulfo Romero . . .", however the "manager" of his "family hotel," participated in a political "pressure group" that was campaigning against Romero when Romero was shot dead during a mass.


socrates said...

What I don't get is how Daily Kos emerged as such a huge blog around 2004-05. MyDD wasn't that big. I tried the wayback machine. The entries weren't getting many comments. I tried DKos. It didn't look like much. Kos isn't a good writer. Nothing he has ever written stands out. He apprears to be like the group The Monkees. He seems to have been a creation and not an organic development.

How does someone with no talent become the owner of the #1 blog in America? At least Huffington has been on tv a long time. No one knew Kos one bit. Again, I challenge anyone to find anything he has ever written that has stood out. I conte3nd that myself and Francis have a more distinctive writing voice than Markos Moulitsas. I think he's been planted into the blogosphere. I think he and Armstrong were political consultants the whole time. They are astroturfers. They are part of a network doing dirty DLC Al From work.

How else can one put it than that Markos Moulitsas Zuniga is an asshole? He was on the side and still on the side of right wing death squads in El Salvador. He never mentions them. When he mentions blooodshed, he always refers to the guerrillas.

He is a confidence man. He is a piece of shit conservative with blood on his hands. Do I think he actually killed someone? Not at all. That's not my point. This guy has never been a progressive. He was hired to act as one. So he developed a following at MyDD for eloquently denouncing the Iraq War? Where is the proof? I don't believe it. I see nothing at Daily Kos from when I read it a bit the last couple years telling me this guy is a progressive. He's an opportunist. He probably is still in contact with CIA, FBI, NSA, and all sorts of right wing fascist influence.

He seriously might want to avoid bumping into relatives of El Salvadoran victims of those death squads he supported and still supports through his silence. I know if I was El Salvadoran and on the right side of history, I would track him down. I would make sure there was some kind of payback. I would make sure the media learned the truth about this scumbag.

socrates said...

sorry for typos

Francis L. Holland Blog said...

This much resounds with me:

"He is a confidence man. He is a piece of shit conservative with blood on his hands. Do I think he actually killed someone? Not at all. That's not my point. This guy has never been a progressive. He was hired to act as one. So he developed a following at MyDD for eloquently denouncing the Iraq War? Where is the proof? I don't believe it. I see nothing at Daily Kos from when I read it a bit the last couple years telling me this guy is a progressive. He's an opportunist. He probably is still in contact with CIA, FBI, NSA, and all sorts of right wing fascist influence."

Since MAMZ has given us so little to go on about who he really is, I've been feeling the need to write a semi-fictional version of his life that includes what we know and offers informed guesses about what we don't know, until a picture comes together that is necessarily imperfect but that provides us with a counter-narrative to the absurdly counter-factual narrative that MAMZ has created for and about himself.

Francis L. Holland Blog said...

Part of what has made MAMZ seem so important is that he really did get in on the first wave of blogging; he has a big mouth; loves to create controversy. And the mainstream media that he initially attacked so much came to take notice of him, with each additional article they wrote about him increasing his caché with others in the blog world.

As for the adulation of him, I think this is a product of hired US Government undercover agents (everyone is undercover when no one uses his real name, right?)

Have you ever wondered why anonymity is considered so crucial in the whitosphere, when it is so easy for the government to identify us? This is the first movement I'm aware of in American history where the participants did everything possible to avoid being identified. When everyone else was writing under a pseudonym and only MAMZ used his real name and accepted media interviews, the media would be more likely to contact MAMZ if only because he was the only one for whom they had contact information.

The anonymity of virtually everyone else at the big box blox enables agents to maintain their cover and encourages the media to focus the attention on the point man - Markos Moulitsas.

The media is well aware of Moulitsas' CIA contacts because they are unavoidable, with 1.5 million Google hits, leading to blogs from across the country. Just among the blogs citing Truth About Kos, there are about five dozen last I looked.

The media is very studiously avoiding reporting the fact that real the real left is questioning MAMZ's contacts with the CIA. Before we had that CIA information, and the information about his family contacts, he was able to allege that his popularity was due to the "meritocracy" of the Internet.

Now we know that media are putting him forward as chief blogger in the same way that paid Government ex-military were contracted out to news organizations to give opinions in favor of Bush Administration policies.

MAMZ is a media creation while his blog, and many of its Kos minions and sycophants are Government agents or assets.

Francis L. Holland Blog said...

Moreover, the press is quite aware of MAMZ's connection to the CIA, however there are so many people in the United States who are working undercover that the media has simply agreed not to print that it knows that someone is undercover. Publishing the identity of a CIA agent or asset is probably a crime, although the media wouldn't need a law - just some urging - to convince them to go along with such a ruse.

Even assuming that MAMZ isn't CIA, the fact that so many blogs believe he is is news in and of itself. The one and a half million Google hits for Kos + CIA are news that the newsmedia has decided not to print (having personally spoken with some of the people who wrote about MAMZ before their articles went to print), with the exceptions of radar online and the question posed of MAMZ at the Commonwealth Club.

socrates said...

That wasn't my greatest post. But a bit of it was spot on. Why is he so tight lipped, when it comes to sharing info on his past and especially that concerning the troubles in El Salvador?

I've only been able to find one reference of his to the actual civil war. He talks about like having to step over bodies

The "Kostroversy" Context

Markos Moulitsas: I feel nothing over the death of merceneries. They aren't in Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq a better place. They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them.... I was 8 years old, and I remember stepping over a dead body, warm blood flowing from a fresh wound. Dodging bullets while at market.

Perhaps as interesting is that Daily Kos went to the Scoop software in October, 2003. That must have been the time from which DKos started a quick ascent to top dog of the internet. Being ties in to an incestuous network of "liberal advertisers" ensured that Kos would get plenty of free advertising and gravitas from the other participating websites.


Moulitsas spent his formative years in El Salvador (1976-1980), where he saw first-hand the ravages of civil war. His family fled threats on their lives by the communist guerillas and settled in the Chicago area.

There you have it. He was clearly on the side of the El Salvadoran Civil War which employed death squads against its own people.

I shared this story with an internet friend on his blog. Here's his take.

The Last Name Left (on a Moulitsas comment from his wedding page): I don't know his skin colour has anything to do with it, but the implication of his comments certainly seems to be he was poor - and thereby on the side of El Salvadore's poor.....dispossessed etc. The "good guys"....kinda.

The point about that - Mr Kos's position of El Salvador - is interesting. What IS, and what WAS his position on it, in detail? Does he ever say? I doubt it.

If it is impossible to find his position on that situation, I'd say that incriminates him all the more.

I mean, he does say

"the underlying changes gave me cause for hope. There were a great number of dark-skinned people in business suits"

That's hardly the analysis a hippy might make. It's not exactly "super-enlightened" is it? It's not exactly "progressive", either. It's something Reaganite hoods in central america would say. It's what they'd want, and what they'd work for. Only they'd shoot trade unionists to achieve it.

There really should be a way to fit Mr Kos's views on El Salvador, and the Reagan death-squads and all that into Mr Kos's wider views, and they should be in harmony with his own professed views, and with those of his audience and supporters.

If it doesn't exist at all, that'd be a real red flag to me. If it does exist, it still doesn't discount the view that he's a right wing tool.

I'd be surprised if there exists clear statements by Mr Kos about El Salvador. Ideological people seem very reluctant to promote ideas they deeply disagree with, even when required for reasons of subterfuge.

socrates said...

On the surface he appears to have hit a good wave of blogging, where the opportunity was there to quickly rise to the top. But what did he write at MyDD that was so special? Where's the proof that MyDD was even that big a deal? How did Kos and Armstrong get so cozy so quickly with the Dean campaign?

I think there are plenty of examples where big name bloggers give the illusion that their rise to the top was well earned and organic. There is someone named Tinoire who fits that bill. While cybersleuthing, I came across a post of hers at the Ronald Reagan forum in which she claimed to have worked for military intelligence. Fine. Whatever. But why doesn't she admit to that anywhere else? Why doesn't she explain how she transformed herself into a lefty after being a hard core right winger? The same goes for Kos. Why doesn't he ever mention the right wing death squads? Why are the few tidbits he has offered concerning the troubles in El Salvador put the blame for bloodshed on the guerrillas? Sure, it's very possible though unlikely that someone right wing can later become a lefty or vice versa. But then why doesn't he explain how he came from a rich family, and that over time he changed his allegiance to the side of the people. He doesn't. He astroturfs that he had no money. He calls the CIA a liberal institution he'd have no trouble working for. Moulitsas' backstory does not add up. It's inorganic.

I see your point on the use of anonymity. Everyone else became a no-name turning Moulitsas into more of a name than he should have been. Even his front page writers were going anonymous until very recently. They only came out with their names after DaveFromQueens exposed them. Now there's a really fascinating story. Dave was famous for his street theatre and for going after Sean Hannity. But that didn't stop the Kos Kops from censoring him, giving him the boot, then smearing him. But Dave got the last laugh. I see that one of the Kos guys who went after him also went after yourself. Michael Bouldin aka MBNYC. He called you a Larouchite. Remember that one? He was one of the folks Dave Weintraub ended up making like fools. Bouldin was what is referred to as a UGOG. They were and probably still are a fake vigilante moderating mob. They actually met in private and decided who to go after, who to get censored and banned. One of the UGOG's posted at Dave's website. Dave was then able to track that person's moves to the UGOG domain, which at the time was unknown. The UGOG's had persdonal access to people like Barb. There is the myth that DKos is community moderated. That's not true. Even Peeder said that the autoban was a myth. These people would go to the admins and get rid of anyone they wanted to. They did it to me. That's when I found out about Dave and what he went through. That's probably the same time I started to figure out what you went through.

socrates said...

You'd think the press would be more aware of Kos' true background, but I don't think they are. People like us are censored and banned. Maybe you should send Keith Olbermann a short email with the basics i.e. the Commonwealth Club, some of Kos' wealthy ties. I think Keith is ultimately a good guy. He blogs at DKos. He is probably unaware that Obama quit DKos because it is a joke. He probably is unaware of Kos' CIA ties. I bet Keith is the kind of guy like us who doesn't like getting played, and that when we are, we do our best to correct the record.

Francis L. Holland Blog said...

The press isn't stupid. They know exactly what MAMZ background is, because you only have to Google his name to discover that the most-known fact about him after his ownership of DailyKos is his connection with the CIA.

If you Google Moulitsas + DailyKos, you will find over 4 million hits, which is only three times more than if you google "Kos + CIA". The stench of MAMZ' connections to the CIA is like the stench of rotting fish in a salad bar.

I had a conversation with a writer from the Washingon Post in preparation for a story s/he wrote. He called me here in Brazil and we spoke for half an hour.

I told him/her the MAMZ/CIA facts and sent links. S/he didn't doubt them and said s/he understood that these facts would tend to discredit MAMZ. S/he didn't mention the CIA confession at all in the story and hasn't since.

The mainstream media is not in the business of "outing" CIA agents and assets.

I even had a long talk with an editor from NPR about MAMZ's connections with the CIA. NPR has never mentioned MAMZ's connections with the CIA, even though this would be the blogworld equivalent of John Edwards' connection to Reille Hunter.

Maybe I should contact the National Enquirer about MAMZ? Couldn't hurt.

Francis L. Holland Blog said...

EVERYBODY doubts that MAMZ had to "step over bodies" in El Salvador, but it is very difficult to prove it's not true. It's much easier to prove e.g. that he wrote a letter opposing ALL gay service in the US military.

socrates said...

Those are good points. The media doesn't do its job. But you'd have to try getting the story out to every single journalist, before you could stereotype the whole industry. Sure, it is illegal to out covert CIA agents. But it's not if they're snot-filled desk workers like Markos.

Someone needs to ask him bluntly, plain and simple, what is up with the timeline he provided to the Commonwealth Club. Then that person needs to publish the findings.

On the other hand, in all those google links are also many links where you are attacked. You're made out to be on some kind of vendetta. That you're an African-American who turns everything into white versus black. It's not that clear what this story about Kos truly is, unless people truly delve into it.

I have come up with stories. I mean a multiple number of scoops. But they don't get anywhere. The major forums don't allow such truths to emerge.

There's this famous guy from NASA named Patrick Minnis. It turns out he was posting anonymously at a crazy website pertaining to chemtrails. It was the biggest one. He was there for quite a number of posts. He was outed, though I'm not sure of the specifics. Anyway, I do admit I am a cybersleuth or was one, and I found out at an obscure forum that the owner of that chemtrail website also worked for NASA. It was the equivalent of a lefty saying the CIA is a liberal institution he's have no problem working for.

Basically Minnis provided in his posts at that dive the conditions by which balloon readings can be skewed. There are weather stations all across the country by whick folks can check out things like temperature, relative humidity, dewpoint temperature, etc.. Listen Francis, there have been clouds made by aircraft emissions that couldn't possibly be explained by science. But I'm a kook. You're a kook. We're all kooks.

There's this guy BradBlog. He makes a lot of noise about election fraud. But when one looks into it, he has been associated with plenty of hoaxes and made up stories. He was a nobody until convicted bomber and drug smuggler Brett Kimberlin provided him with those materials. Their new project is to scam people out of donations to fight domestic terrorism. Brett Kimberlin was a domestic terrorist! Can you spell irony and mendacity? I've figured a lot of things out. I put together the internet puzzle pieces of fakes and frauds. For my effort I got cyberstalked and smeared. Kosd definitely fits into the puzzle and a sizeable part of it. But there is much more to it than him. I don't believe these are simply opportunists going for bucks in blogging. I think there is much more to it. We are talking about nothing less than the perverting of democratic principles on the net.

socrates said...

Hey Francis, you might want to check out my new entry at DFQ2. I don't expect you or anyone else to read through every link, but if you have the time to scan through my piece, it might open up some doors for you. I did see part of it mentioned here before at google, but I didn't actually take a look at that. It's basically something kind of new to me. It could explain Kos and El Salvador. There are institutions out there who act as if they are promoting peace, but in fact they are all about providing a kinder and gentler form of regime change. There's even a Kos connection.

Fake Peace Activism Tied To The Military and CIA

socrates said...

Francis, this guy Al from Narco News showed up at DFQ2. He has had glowing words in the past for Moulitsas. If you're into it, maybe you can inform him a bit about the truth about Kos. Hope all is well. Take it easy. :)

Fake Peace Activism Tied To The Military and CIA

Francis L. Holland Blog said...


I couldn't care less what people say about me at other blogs. They try to convince others not to bother to listen to the Commonwealth Club audio-tape, and not to follow the trail of MAMZ's business dealing in El Salvador.

Fact is, if I weren't onto something then there wouldn't have been five or six dozen blogs that cited the Truth About Kos and linked to the audio tape or to Truth About Kos.

Now, there are Kos minions who will try to convince you that the person who says it is daylight outside ought not be believed because he his biased. And he's so biased that we needn't bother to look out the window and see if what he says is true or not.

You'll notice however, that the best defense MAMZ minions have been able to offer for MAMZ is that

(1) He was young when he was, admittedly, "an asshole";

(2) He didn't "work" at the CIA during his two year training there, even though CIA training advertisements on the Internet says that trainees work alongside experienced hands;

(3) EVERYBODY knows someone who works at the CIA, except Francis L. Holland, who would never knowingly consort with CIA agents or assets.

(4) It's not MAMZ's fault that his family is rich and powerful, although he probably shouldn't have denied it in various interviews;

(5) MAMZ has done too much for the Left for us to be distracted from his good works by the fact that he only told us about his CIA connections four years into his DailyKos blog, and therefore cannot be trusted.

In other words, all of their defenses for MAMZ are bullshit excuses, but none of them has disproved a single assertion I've made about MAMZ, from his CIA links to his family's connections to groups know for supporting torture in El Salvador (ANEP).

MAMZ minions keep saying MAMZ is part Latino and therefore he can't be callous or biased toward Latinos, even though only 1.5% of his blog is Latino. Problem is, in a college essay MAMZ specifically denied any connections with Latinos and called Latinos "they" and "them". He said he would never know what it was like to be unable to escape your cultural heritage and live a white man. (See sidebar for link.)

When I outed the letter to the college newspaper in which MAMZ opposed ALL gay service in the military, all his minions could say is that it was a long time ago. Meanwhile MAMZ himself responded directly to the letter, saying that he had been an "asshole" to write that letter.

What I really like is when MAMZ's name comes up at a blog conversation and someone drops a link to the Truth About Kos in the comments, and then everyone comes to this blog and has to admit that MAMZ is a fraud once they see even a piece of the evidence.

People can call me any names they want, but I'm not the one trying to "crash the gates" of the Democratic Party (except by ending the 43-term white male monopoly of the presidency). It's MAMZ's credibility that people want to know about, and half of the hits at Truth About Kos lately have been about whether he is gay or not.

I don't care if people come to this blog for that purpose and are then exposed to the real reasons why MAMZ cannot be trusted. But MAMZ's letter against gays in the military raise some legitimate questions about MAMZ's sexuality, and that's something about which a lot of people want more information.

The can call me "obsessed" if they want. I call it "focused." But, if it is an "obsession," it sure is a tree that has born some very shocking fruit!

Francis L. Holland Blog said...

A lot of people have also observed that I'm not attacking MAMZ from the right, as would be expected from someone who trying to hurt a blog movement.

I'm attacking MAMZ as a Black person who is disgusted that in a Democratic Party where 20% of the delegates to the national convention are Black, MAMZ has only 2.5% Black participation at his blog. I don't think he has the credibility on issues of concern to minorities, women and gays to crash the Democratic Party.

He should instead crash the Republican Party, where his history and CIA connections will be respected more than they are by people like me who vote for Democratic candidates.

socrates said...

Francis, I just noticed you have me down as dave from queens. I'm not him. That was Dave Weintraub, a great man who used to expose Sean Hannity, do outstanding street theater, and was a prolific blogger at DKos before being unfairly banned. He later uncovered a rigged moderating system which led to the very top of the rotting fish which is DKos. My blogspot is called davefromqueens2 in honour of his cybersleuthing legacy. Though there was much more to him than that. Like there is much more to you than what you have done to expose DKos. Take care.

Francis L. Holland Blog said...

Anyone with glowing words about MAMZ has never googled his name.

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